All rights reserved. Crew members who miss the ship should contact the ship's Agent who will be at the port (the address and phone number are always in the Princess Patter, a daily newsletter for our guests). You guys walk right up to the front of the queue. Thanks for what you do. I agree with you about flight attendants vs pilots. It's not at all fair to the crew members who do the right thing. Check it out its in the Pilot Wives Page or on KrewRestKaren. Most airports have crew only lines and if they dont were allowed to walk to front of line while in uniform. Security is fine as long as they make it quick for working crew membersthere isn't a pilot or flight attendant anywhere in the world who would be willing to wake-up 3 to 4 hours early on their already too short layovers. BS, airports like MIA and MCO all and I mean all employees entering the sterile or SIDA area of the airport are screened. A 14 year old girl flew coast to coast solo, followed by her father, an airline captain in another plane. "If It can be pumped, poured, spread or sprayed and it's more than 3.4 ounces," it needs to . They also let a passenger through a week ago with a razor blade. Authorized crewmembers traveling with a printed boarding pass or seat request card are subject to the TSA Secure Flight (SF) vetting system the same as passengers. Related Searches. It is unfortunate that in 2023, the program may no longer exist for some. {uyn1j~_L;t26mHMSY%?kbS&eGo?3/_fbd^`Gv`!=XYX+\GGGGGGEES%%%%%%y;`-^Sc;_y^1}iF3 If the average traveller's time is worth $30 per hour, then an extra 20 minute delay costs $10. Weren't we all background checked by FBI and other Federal Agencies to be issued this ID ? Users can change airlines, barcodes, and view history all from the same account. Yesterday when I went through TSA pre-check, i beeped walking through the detector even though I had nothing in my pockets or that I was wearing that should have beeped Im a flight attendant and Ive been random 18 times out of 22 since I started counting in January. If Will is a pilot, it only reinforces the often primadonma, elitist egos of many pilots. Keep dreaming. This is going to cause more time people wait in line and people already hate it when crew members arrive late to the aircraft. lost an engine, no hydraulics, a decompression, or worse) onboard your next flight and YOU need the assistance of a Flight Attendant to save your life or that of a loved one! [1] [2] Collectively called cabin crew, flight attendants are primarily responsible for passenger safety and comfort. This entire article was a joke and seemed more demeaning than informative. Only 1 per person/crew member allowed (II) Safety cover is securely fitted over the heating element . ALPA and the A4A met in late March 2011 with TSA Administrator John S. Pistole and received TSA approval to install and test Known Crewmember at as many as seven U.S. hub airports. (I hear at home On the one hand, I've spent the last 16 years+ working for TSA. Known Crewmember is a risk-based screening system that enables TSA security officers to positively verify the identity and employment status of flight crewmembers. 0000011580 00000 n Would have been cool if Clayton Osbon had a gun too right? Crewmembers should follow TSA instructions and not attempt to resolve the issue with TSA officers as they are unable to rectify system failures or denials. An automated enhancement to random screening/USP has been enabled in the KCM system. xref What is the intent of Known Crewmember (KCM)? Dont just blame a work group. So many of these comments are quite entertaining. While you have no idea what its like going through security as many times as we do with our heavy bag, etc, as many times as we do, it is actually quite frustrating to walk up to kcm and be randomed 2/3 of the time. I said I'm not concerned with passenger volume or wait times. It takes all of us to to fly passengers. You seem to be missing the point and just jumping on the offense instead. The program expedites flight crewmember access to sterile areas of airports, reduces passenger screening line congestion, enhances security, and makes airport checkpoint screening more efficient for all who depend on air transportation. A crewmember will be issued a KCM barcode card from their participating airline management staff. For those who abuse the line, like while going to leisure international travel, which is not permitted, an immediate 6 months suspension without pay. Dangerous Goods are items that may endanger the safety of an aircraft or persons on board the aircraft. The Crew Appreciation charge is paid to Holland America Line team members and represents an important part of their compensation. I don't really care if literally the whole crew, all my fellow passengers, and TSA are all smuggling drugs on every flight so long as I get where I'm headed. I was impressed with KCM at SFO the other day. Highly incorrect. In short, TSA KNOWS that multiple airline crew will push back, making noise that will DEFINITELY generate the news they need to remain relevant when it comes to their jobs. We also hoped it would inform and deter travelers from packing prohibited items in their own carry-on and checked bags. The attention is directed at the wrong people. So they pick on us instead. Do not go through KCM. Too bad a few more here can't grasp the insight you just provided for them. When the JetBlue flight attendant in LAX got caught with cocaine shortly after F/As were included in the program, we all saw the writing on the wall. A joke. Are you EOD now? Therefore, KCM eligible crewmembers are required to understand these KCM Rules for Use and comply with these rules while using the KCM access points. Interesting viewpoint, except for those people who never have to pass through security could easily pass said product off to said pilot, attendant, or anyone with access to the plane storage cargo. 5The Known Crew Member program enables TSOs to positively verify the identity and employment status of flight-crew members who have joined the program and provide expedited access to the sterile area of the airport for properly identified and verified, uniformed crewmembers. The Known Crewmember program (often abbreviated KCM) allows select airline pilots and flight attendants to enter the sterile area of the airport without going through the standard security screening process. The real issue is if you wanted to smuggle something, you would just throw it away if you got random or give it to someone else to try to take it through. Punish those that broke the rule. We should not take a step backward. 99.99% of those passengers have done nothing wrong, and are carrying no contraband nor weapons. Central American Airways Flying Services Inc. There is no reason to trust flight attendants any more than any other trusted group, like police officers, travelers with security clearances, doctors or priests. NOTE: If the selected Crewmember exits the sterile area and attempts to reenter through a KCM access point during this time period, they will continue to be identified for USP. HAAAA!!! 2) You want to make the people who cross umpteen timezones for your safety stand around like the rest of you cheap cattle car bovines, watch crews take their sweet time at the back of the two hour line to get through security. I'll bet you're very good at stacking pillows and blankets around something you'll never find. Nevertheless, we know it takes man power and probably effects their bottom-line, to manage the check point. The TSA is just theater of the absurd (95% fail rate*) . endstream endobj 81 0 obj <>/Size 53/Type/XRef>>stream All Crewmembers transiting a KCM portal are subject to random screening. Questions about the specifics of the program should be directed to your airline. I do agree that some Flight Attendants have ruined it a lot by doing wrong but if they cancel the program and don't provide an alternative you'll see the number of Flight Attendants dropping drastically because none of us would go stand for 3-4 hours in TSA and then at the gate without getting paid. I would love to see the upcoming changes on the program since I'm currently a flight attendant. But now theyre gonna stop flight attendants from trafficking in fentanyl. You dont have flight attendants so have no special procedures during flight. Not one employee for any airline or airport goes through security. Crewmembers traveling with pets will be directed to the passenger-screening checkpoint and screened in accordance with TSA screening procedures. In your feeble mind, do you really think the TSA guy sitting there makes the rules? Considering 90% of guns are not even found when the TSA is tested by other government agencies, I'm curious how they even manage to find guns or drugs on crewmembers. Zr 6+D`CWqkvqdG;\x\pxuS]\`IR]C}0MH7nVi V^VOHD \/q,B"A ?#a),O 6o_?y \Q:@ av List of Prohibited Items Examples of items prohibited by UPS include, but are not limited to the following: Ammunition (except as expressly provided in the "UPS Tariff/Terms and Conditions of Service - United States" beginning on page 7) Bank bills, notes or currency (other than coin) Corpses, cremated or disinterred remains Fireworks Enter your email address here and we will send you an email with your username and instructions on how to change your password. Is the little baby upset that he can't go thru KCM cause his coworkers got busted smuggling drugs? The real issue is if you wanted to smuggle something, you would just throw it away if you got random or give it to someone else to try to take it through. And if I run out of duty day because I've been standing in line, oh well. Our frustration has absolutely nothing to do with entitlement. If a crewmember does not present an active KCM barcode card and is referred for screening, they must follow the TSOs instructions and complete the screening process at the passenger screening checkpoint. Then you have to listen to Its not entitlement. EVEN with FULL KCM we constantly have to go thru full passenger screening because some airports have NO KCM or limited hours. So they are more likely to risk their crap paying job (as stated in the article) to make big bucks very easily. Lmao you think I care about wait times and passenger volume? Q. You dont have flight attendants so have no special procedures during flight. 0000008870 00000 n When it was expanded to include flight attendants, we almost immediately saw issues developing. I have. If a crewmember believes that a KCM denial occurred relative to employment status, they should proceed to the passenger-screening checkpoint for screening and, when time permits, ask an airline supervisor for assistance with the airline KCM record. If the crewmember/s indicates possession of the items above or personal international travel, the TSO will notify a Supervisory-TSO (STSO). Shoot we regularly have people with guns on the aircraft, air marshals, Leos and ffdos and if one of them snapped one day they could certainly do harm. Provisions for Dangerous Goods Carried by Passengers or Crew (Subsection 2.3) Dangerous goods must not be carried in or as passengers or crew, checked or carry-on baggage, except as otherwise 2 provided below. Thank you for listening to ALL my pain points. No other individuals are allowed access in the KCM program. For everyones information, so long as the plane is on there is no need to have pilots on board while boarding passengers. This is going to cause As a flight attendant myself I see this as another power grab by the government entity tsa. Enjoy screening! Almost every cruise ship in the world offers some sort of laundry service onboard if you need. As a frequent flyer Ive received far more attitude from FAs them I ever have from TSA. Are you mad that they aren't letting people smuggle drugs thru security? Perhaps we should make it easy for flight attendants to get to the aircraft too? That, and the fact that pilots or flight attendants could threaten the safety of the flight, makes crewmembers unique. Basically, cooperate and graduate. Known Crew Members (KCM) Lanes KCM ties airline employee databases together in a seamless way and enables Transportation Security Administration (TSA) security officers to positively verify the identity and employment status of crew members. After all, theres big money in smuggling drugs, and perhaps some newly minted flight attendants dont feel like they have that much to lose career-wise. The problem is flight attendants abusing KCM. Ok, back to your BarcaLounger. So it does happen..not a fishy story. For context, with the Known Crewmember Program, eligible pilots and flight attendants dont have to clear security when passing through airports. History is not saved for crewmembers without a mykcmsupport.com account. And no youre not getting a credit. TSA really should be abolished. As it is, the random screenings have increased exponentially - to the point where crew members are tempted to go through the pre check line anyway to avoid an extra step of waiting for someone to tell you to go there. Such conduct can jeopardize crewmembers of their right to participate in the program and consequently jeopardizes the entire Known Crew Member (KCM) program. 0000003052 00000 n The statistics dont lie. You cant be responsible enough to be to work on time? 4.1.1. I fly for an international freight airline. The screenshot is going around. To protect your ability to participate in the Known Crewmember program, you must abide by the following rules: Authorized flight crew members must travel in uniform. If you believe that a KCM denial occurred relative to your employment status, please enter the sterile area as directed via the passenger-screening checkpoint and, when time permits, ask your airline supervisor for assistance in rectifying the situation with your carrier. I will not come here to say one is worse than the other, while I have witnessed my fair share of the other half doing things they should not. If there is to be no special consideration for a FA then there should be none for pilots. 0000000896 00000 n Unfortunately, due to the dubious actions and agendas of a few, here we are. I guarantee if you're a flight attendant reading this you've said "oF cOuRsE I diD!" The FAA in their infinite wisdom starting requiring flight attendants to have an FAA Airman certificate several years ago. You have a nice day. lap-top computers, camcorders, when carried by passengers or crew for personal use. My concern for flight attendants would be the TSA liquid limits. That has never happened at any US domestic airport. Failure to follow the instruction provided by the TSO may result in action by the TSA, which may include a loss of KCM privileges for that crewmember. Agree that the problem stems from flight attendants being able to use this as well as pilots. Items prohibited in checked baggage but permitted in hand baggage. I need to hurry up to get to the plane all while not getting paid for it until that boarding door closes. If youve not got anything productive to say, just focus on flying the plane. For all these keyboard cowboys, do you actually know how to Google? The simple reality is that pilots have FAR more to lose than flight attendants if they risk their career at a KCM checkpoint, and therefore they deserve a higher level of trust. Please remember you said this when YOU have a medical emergency or a general emergency (ie. Yes, I flew this week. Im a F/A. Maximum penalties. As a paying subscriber of CLEAR & TSAPre, I would welcome a dedicated crew/employee line for those employees that are working. This is also known as the 3-1-1 liquids rule. Maybe that would deter them? There's too many crewmembers to have them all go through pre-check. must be screened at the passenger-screening checkpoint. If they want to look in my bag, no problem. Instead of punishing Flight Attendants (who seem to be blamed for SO MUCH & historically are never at fault - Ive done the deep dive research), why dont we put the emphasis on the truly broken system, the TSA - aka. I have pre check and clear. The more international travelers know about what to expect, the easier and quicker the process becomes. You also clearly dont know what youre talking about if youre suggesting to not screen pilots. If you did, you wouldn't have made such an inept comment. Do you know how early we have to arrive to be on time and not get paid? That is not correct. I've come up with a plan though for my KCM screening, up 75%I now wear flip flops and a Jethro Bodine belt to then get sent to random screening! Ban the ones who broke the rules. There have been reports of pilots caught with weapons when they get randomed. A non-expired government-issued photo ID; An aircraft operator-issued crewmember photo ID; and, A valid FAA Flight Attendant Certificate of Proficiency; or, A second non-expired government-issued photo ID. That is simply the way it works in every part of society. If pilots were running a little late for whatever reason, the flight attendants would still be required to be there to board passengers so as not to be faulted with a delay in the boarding process. When it was expanded to include flight attendants, we almost immediately saw issues developing. Therefore, KCM eligible crewmembers are required to understand theKCM Rules for Useand comply with these rules while using the KCM access points. a. Some times 10 or 15 TSA screeners at the same time. The TSA screening is NOT there to catch drug smugglers. Do you know how to build an LRBL at 17,500 feet ? I'll bet you even flash your "first responder" wings at cops on traffic stops too. If you don't like going through security, then commercial aviation is not the right job for you. Queen Mary 2 is certified to carry 4,400 people (3,108 guests and 1,292 crew members). Pilots are not more trustworthy than flight attendants and should not be given more special privileges than their fellow crew members. Yes, you generally go to a crew line or the front of the regular line or a separate crew security line, but you Always go the the scanner as does your luggage. Crewmembers will no longer be permitted to manually enter their KCM data. We do get front of the line access. 0000007057 00000 n If the investigation results in regulatory findings, including a Warning Notice, loss of KCM privileges will continue for the period of time that TSA has determined is necessary. The TSO will match the identification to the crewmembers appearance and confirm the crewmembers identity and current employment status via the KCM system. A KCM denial could result from a database error that is nonspecific to you, or it might involve a miscommunication with your air carrier. Its really an interesting take when you mention pilots dont need to be screened as much. It is incorporated for crewmembers protection and to ensure the integrity of the system. Today's airline management and unions only care that the males can wear the female uniforms, makeup, tattoos, or fingernail polish, because it keeps the "price down". Poshmark prohibits the sale of items that have been recalled by governments or manufacturers. - you would really have more "professionals" and those are less likely to abuse the system. The most common hard skill for a mcdonalds crew member is cleanliness. Now there's a delayairline management won't like that idea. I stopped using it entirely for about 2 months now. It's not about logistics. Dangerous Goods must not be carried in (or as) passenger or crew-checked baggage Dont worry though, youll be back groping children in no time. Boohoo. Cleaners/agents/food vendors/cleaning crews/maintenance. The current limits are arbitrary and nearly meaningless. They are picked up and dropped off from the ramp. startxref Im so tired of the majority of us being punished because of the few idiots that break the rules or commit crimes. It does appear the supercilious author of this piece, pulled out his Medallion Card and showed it to the whole worldeven if to mostly blame impoverished flight attendants for being drug mules? He clearly doesnt do this on the day yo day and sounds dumb. Q: What should I do if I encounter a TSA screening officer who does not seem to be applying the KCM requirements correctly? Allowing anyone to bypass security is illogical and needs to stop. You don't and that's ok because the flight attendants do. Crew members know the rules - the bad apples just are overly confident they wont be held accountable. Throw the book at the offenders. - you would really have more "professionals" and those are less likely to abuse the system. Many common items found in your household can be considered dangerous goods for the purpose of air transport. 30 days of history is only recorded for crewmembers with a mykcmsupport.com account I have been using KCM for a while, but just now created an account to see my history, why is there no history? TSOs are directed toadvisecrewmembers utilizing the KCM access points of the following procedures that arenotallowed. KCM provides crewmembers with an alternative entry point into airport sterile areas, which may be separate from the passenger security-screening lanes. The Known Crewmember (KCM) program is a joint initiative between Airlines for America (A4A) and the Air Line Pilots Association, Intl (ALPA).KCM ties airline employee databases together in a seamless way and enables Transportation Security Administration (TSA) security officers to positively verify the identity and employment status of crewmembers. This is just going to exacerbate the problem of long lines and lack of precheck in multiple terminals, You can even point to this as a reason for the insane crowding at lounges were seeing. I'm a 44 year flight attendant. The people being caught with contraband are both flight attendants and pilots. Duh. Failure to follow these rules could result in temporary or permanent loss of KCM privileges. Q:What if I have not received a KCM barcode card from my participating airline? Steve - Did you fly this past year? I think the KCM program is complete bullshit. Tell your coworkers to stop trying to smuggle drugs and guns. Your password can't be a commonly used password. Our frustration has absolutely nothing to do with entitlement. No jumping in front of the line ( I always commute in polo shirts ). Just give us our own lane already. I have also seen pilots try to bring animals or children through KCM with them. But I guess let's just ignore those statistics and realities because you're offended by it. I highly doubt it but they wont release the exact numbers they give vague statements so they can grab more power. Q:My airline is participating in the KCM program; where can I get a KCM barcode card? Q:How is the KCM barcode card used? Airline pilot here. 0000001314 00000 n Most of these tsa agents are regular people, lower paid, not highly educated. We are required to sign in at latest 1 hr before departure. As of 2023, the TSA will allegedly be introducing Expedited Crew Access, which will replace the Known Crewmember Program. How insulting! Once registered, you may begin using the barcode card at any active KCM access point. Wasting TSA time and resources that should be used with someone else. Making all of us lose this privilege will soon tax tsa, delay flights and and expand misconnects. A:The KCM barcode card is used to expedite the crewmember verification process at the KCM access points. Punish those that broke the rule. Crew are human. That's right. Real professional comment on your part. It has been a shit-show forever at many airports (I'll site a few problem locations: EWR is #1- their KCM NEVER WORKS, forcing Crew to the regular (oh I'm sorry) - I am not trying to disparage flight attendants, of course they are important but they are not the same as pilots and there are multiple rational grounds for distinguishing between them.

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