The correct answer should be "nothing at all". Think about going stylishly dark instead, The international shows designers bring the focus back to the craftsmanship and luxurious materials of the 1920s, See why an engineered wood floor could be your best choice (and no one will know but you), Gleaming wood floors are a thing of beauty. Just about the time I had to FINALLY make a decision (about a year later than when I started due to the architects goof ups and COVID shut downs), the Corian fabricator sent me a couple 4x4 samples of Glacier White. It should have had one extra coat of protectant. WebBona sealer to avoid uneven tannin pull due to using a water based poly, (especially on white oak), no stain, then Bona Traffic HD. For my white oak floors - thinking of using Bona Natural Sealer or Classic or Intense. Then go with water based and be done with it. Can they be easily buffed out with a non-scratch sponge? Imagine if that would have been quartz? The 'raw' look is a special look. Some Quartzites are more grainy which make them more porous. He is a small shop and me and one other of his clients are the first to ask him for a "raw look" rift sawn white oak door. (The chocolate would have been fabulous next to it.) I adore the light color, but every little water spot shows, or a splash of spilled coffee. Okay we have decided to go with Bona Traffic HD in extra matte! Give a price you can make a living off of and let someone else win the low ball estimates. @Ashley Your floors look beautiful. Web$55.00 Mainstays Farmhouse Oversized Floral Cream Area Rug, 7x10 for sale in Murray, UT on KSL Classifieds. They are still drying and look darker in the photos than they do in person FYI. I'm sorry you felt diminished. Snowy cabinets and walls speak to a certain elegance, while marble counters whisper of luxury, Give your joints a break while you're standing at the stove, with these resilient and beautiful materials for kitchen floors, Landscape Architects & Landscape Designers, Outdoor Lighting & Audio/Visual Specialists, Dream Spaces: 12 Beautiful White Kitchens, 7 Kitchen Flooring Materials to Boost Your Cooking Comfort. It will 'deepen' the colour you see (ie. They are 7&1/4 inch baseboards though if that helps. I think the choice will be between the Natural and the Classic Seal. If you you know you are doing something we offer on floor samples (3x3) in many combinations and finishes. He can 'cut in' the edges of the floor with a brush, bite a sandwich, chew, take a drink, go toilette, come back and work the job with a T-barand STILL have time to go over several sections if it looks 'dry'. I plan to call the Bona company tomorrow to get their assistance. The correct answer should be "nothing at all". Bona Traffic finishes questions for people that have used it. Will do.My two cents now that we are almost 6 month in. If the floor looks as good as this little exposed area, Ill be really HAPPY. If you look at my photos above, the wood sample with one coat of Bona Natural sealer and one coat of Matte Traffic HD looked nice too but looked horrible with one coat of Natural and 3 coats of satin Traffic HD. Never to be heard from again. My builders subs didnt handle either material and just about everyone except @Joseph Corlett (who regularly comments on Houzz) grimaced when I mentioned Corian. WebSome 5 white oak with Bona Natural Seal and Hd traffic extra matte. Thats a problem Im left with and he wrote that message to me, not the hardwood installer. These posts priceless. If you like the look of your raw white oak floors then NaturalSeal is your best bet. I wish I could do it myself or delete the rude and negative comments. Some of us dont have either the budget or access to a multitude of cabinet makers so trying to work with them on getting the desired finish. Good luck on your project!! It was not supportive or helpful. In real life, they look lighter and more uniform in color than shows up on my iPhone. We will have 3500 sq of wood and certainly dont want problems. Hey Merrilyn, looks like we are in the same boat. The company that supplied the raw wood and the installer both recommend Bona products. There are FAAAAR too many 'dudes' out there that call themselves pros. How to keep red oak floors light and natural? I disagree that it was not an attack on me as G & Ss follow up comment said, oh yeah, hidden message. They don't like doing it - because they go through SOOO many screening discs (I've heard of more than 12 discs being used in one home). Maybe I will just buy new bathrobes for me and DH instead. If you are in the area, you may want to visit Cochrans showroom. We wanted to end up with a floor that looked as close to our raw wood as possible but had lots of protection. Of the Bona sealers, NordicSeal looks to white to me and AmberSeal - well the name says it all, trying to stay away from the amber look. They make their final grit-pass and then they will place the colour samples down with a coat of finish. I'd say the Rubio Smoke 5% was warmer, more golden, while the Unico Smoke was a cooler wheat, but they were very very close. I am actually in the process of having a quart sample of the Milesi Natural Effect 2k finish sent my way. However, as you can see from the photo, after the first coat, yellow dominated the room. Yes. Thx for sharing. It is slightly better than a oil base polyurethane system. Some people complain that is hard to live with finish, because for example foot marks while walking barefoot. Find out how to keep them that way, Tired of tan? So in my mind better to research and ask questions than not. Past techniques to achieve a natural floor look relied on harsh chemicals like bleach, two-part peroxide-based strippers or oxalic acid. As G & S states, the sealers will not AMBER over time (as in get DARKER) but the IntenseSeal and the ClassicSeal will offer SOME tan/yellow. Find the right local pro on Houzz to kickstart your project. Oh cripe I had a whole response written out and it went poof. Make your home a homage to Scandinavian style or simply add a few nicely Nordic touches with this checklist of key features, Snowy cabinets and walls speak to a certain elegance, while marble counters whisper of luxury, Find out the most popular countertop, flooring, cabinet, backsplash and paint picks among homeowners who are renovating, Blizzard fierce or butter soft, white can highlight shapes, unify a room and perform miracles on the cheap, Engineered wood flooring offers classic looks and durability. Someone posted on here that if you like a just washed look reconsider using matte. I read on the Bona website (and others) that TrafficHD coverage was 350-400sf/gal. Haven't made decisions on flooring yet, but I love white oak. WebWe ended up using one coat of Bona natural sealer and two coats of HD matte on the floors. I'm so confusedthere is no flooring in the white oak, just the LVP. White oak seems to be kind of tricky. Red oak stairs - Do I install white oak floors or red? You can see how the quartz is not as white as the countertop. And I do find myself wishing I had done 3 coats of Bona Traffic HD - just to give them more protection. The floors are being installed and finished by Brazilian Floors (they have several locations in the D.C. metro area). Really not read much about IntenSeal? So hand rail and newl postadvice would be appreciated! I have had the same inspiration kitchen photo for months. If you do NOT want ORANGEthen stay away from "oil" based finishes or "oil modified". ISO something similar to Hallmark Alta Vista "Malibu" in urethane, Questions about chemicals in vinyl install - foul odor, health probs. It is the way it is normally done. Thanks for sharing these pictures - they look great! I just had four rooms of 30-year-old white oak floors sanded down to the raw wood and refinished with Bona products. White streaks in floor. If not, you can at least trivially test the floor: First. @ Moran.now I see where this has come up. Do you have high ceilings ? The fabricator was really nice and pulled whole Quartz slabs from his warehouse into the parking lot for me to see. Also I highly suggest getting big samples done with all the coatings. You either pay the piper todayor you pay a couple more pipers in 15 yearsThe choice is yours. The coating should not come up. Choosing finish on white oak floor. WebBona DriFast Stain is a premium quick-drying stain for interior hardwood floors. Your floors are as important as your roof. @mtpo did you use a satin or matte finish? In your photos, it actually looks like your parquet is made solid squares, nicer to see larger woodgrain patterns instead of the 4 or 5 slat in a checkerboard pattern(each "tile" would have 12 or 14 etc total slats in one 1 sf "tile". Thank you for your input. Houzz Pro: One simple solution for contractors and design pros. When I get to see them, Ill post pics. If not, you can at least trivially test the floor: First. We just installed 5 white oak throughout our home. Hd and Supra extra matte does not. skip to main content Sale ON SALE - UP TO 75% OFF Bathroom Vanities Chandeliers Bar Stools Pendant Lights Rugs Living Room Chairs Dining Room Furniture Wall Lighting Coffee Tables Side & End Tables Home Office Furniture Sofas Bedroom Furniture Lamps Mirrors FURNITURE It is the single most abused/used FINISH ('finish' means 'pretty) in your home. G & S gave helpful advice prior to these last two posts that are nasty. 2 coats at the right coverage is more than enough for low traffic areas. Two things to do: First, drag your fingernail across it, see what happens. How should I adjust these home plans to save $ or improve the layout. It honestly looks just like our white oak (unstained, natural) - I wish I could leave it without sealer etc. It wasnt 3 coats in one day. That doesn't sound like what you are after. I had just had floors done by a floor shop, two years of hospice requires me to redo them, seems a layer can be scraped up with a spackle scraper easily and turned dark ( like cherry wood does in sunlight but this was white oak ). Founded in 1919, Bona offers products for most premium floor surfaces including The 3 coats of finish (the expensive HD stuff) is the Gold Standardbut 2 coats + sealant is still very good. p.s. . See the photo below if you open the photo you will see the raw wood. They do their own fuming there I found it interesting to learn about that too. What color are your cabinets and what color Corian did you go with? Can they be easily buffed out with a non-scratch sponge? Anyway, good luck. Its no different than my quartz countertop and backsplash that also should not have acidic or harsh chemicals, and Im sure most professional contractors wouldnt recommended against quartz behind a stove. When was the last coat applied? Thank you for your feedback. They are not even good choices for low care floors. We also added the clerestory windows like you did. white oak hardwood flooring. Light, white sealed floors or dark dramatic floors? I was asked two separate questions. . Our cabinet maker hasn't been able to match what we are hoping for. It is my understanding that these Bona products are tricky to apply. Houzz Pro: One simple solution for contractors and design pros. Contact your Bona rep to understand all the options with the Bona System or view our catalog here: https://bit.ly/3eqqhSK. They were super rich! I did a larger sample of Unico smoke, covered with their Titan (goes on with a roller) and tested it with salty water, red wine and vinegar. Bona sealer to avoid uneven tannin pull due to using a water based poly, (especially on white oak), no stain, then Bona Traffic HD. There are MANY people who do NOT know they are 'clean-shiny' people until they purchase matte floors. Mega turns yellow. Hi thanks in advance for your help We are having white oak installed and finished on site. I've tested their smoke reactive and their Baro reactive Both can be adjusted with water or their "clear" so that you can get varying tones. 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This is what G & S was responding to.a quick scan of your answer (I'm guilty of it myself some times) can give the impression that everything was done same day (which it wasn'tbecause I asked about the LAST coatnot the timeline to reach last coat). Back to square one. Sorry but that isn't the way things are done in the building industry. 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Unfortunately I don't remember how many layers of each. I hope I get into the house before any subcontractors mess them up again! He installed the floors beautifully, but installed red oak even though I showed him a sample of pre-finished white stained white oak. It was light and made the room appear larger. This only matters for porosity not hardness. Any reputable stone dealer and fabricator should be able to tell you which are grainy Quartzites and which are Crystalline. They don't turn orangebut they do throw a strong YELLOW hue onto the floors. Disregard the walls (we are installing a new kitchen). For someone to get this done 'properly' takes training. The Bona Traffic HD is three steps higher than Mega. Looks like it was a screen shot with the flooring compan of Seattle Hardwood out of Mukilteo. They can use a big machine with a screening pad to get up most of that gunk. The one that Bona advertizes as clear made our wood look a tiny bit orange. I have about 735 sf. are you happy with these floors or wish you would have gone darker? Our new floors just got done and we got to sneak a peek. They were great to work with. There are some lap lines on the floors from the sealer. It looks like you have SOLID 5" (that ranks as wide plank = glue assist) White Oak. Any suggestions on deciding one over the other? But maybe it is just old and scratched over the years? After reading on the website about this particular water-based finish, I learned that while it might dry clear, it leaves an amber color tone--just what I did not want. Looking for something similar to yours, thank you! The cost of the floors is such a big expenditure that I didnt even ask the installer if or how much he was charging me for the samples I chalked it up to the overall cost of the floors. Just found out distributors only sale in gallon sizeso its not going to be an option for metoo expensive to pay for gallons in seal and finish just to test it. The real way this is tested is actually even meaner to the floor - normally you take a box cutter, cross-hatch the floor (IE cut it in a grid pattern), and then put the tape on it and rip it up. My vanity with Corian and porcelain sink. Pretty sure they bleached their cabinets but who knows at this point. It won't tell you what caused the scratching (glass particles in sand is the usual culprit. Also, will the Bona Nordic take the white oak lighter at all or darker? We have decided to go with a mix of white and light wood for the cabinets. YesBona Traffic HD is MUCH more expensive than over-the-counter stuff. It seems much darker than the close up picture with the paper removed Just wondering which is closer to what you see in person? More great information. Mega One is a clear non-yellowing finish. * I didn't know that Classic Sealer added yellow that Natural Sealer did not but I didn't have anything to compare it to. But maybe it is just old and scratched over the years? I put any Quartzite that I have not carried before through vigorous testing before I sell it to my customers as a Quartzite. (BTW - We ran into the issue with getting character grade mixed into our select a bit too, very frustrating!). Carlyweiss, your post and pictures are so helpful for those of us in the choosing process. Below Jack and Jill bath with Corian countertop AND Corian integrated sinks. Any specific fillers recommended for the knots & gaps ? Yours in Floors Zach Liske Floor Huggers. I should add that I planned to use Bona Traffic HD finish as well since I read how durable it is and how it goes on clear without yellowing the wood. Of course, none of this is more than 3 foot square sampleand not my kitchen floor, but we are hopeful that we have an answer. We did one coat of Bona natural seal and two coats of Bona HD extra matte on white oak. @kasmit00 Did you ever find the recipe for your post from last year with the beautiful soft "brown" floors? You will save a little compared to Traffic HD, perhaps $0.25 psf. Sigh. My guess would be red oak since they have gone more orange. Don't change chemical companies in the middle of a refinish. The solid white D e k t o n didnt clean up as well as Neolithic or Corian. are you happy with it 2+ years later (and is it holding up well with food/oil stains etc) please share any details, like if you had 2 or 3 coats. I waxed it out. (We dont know for sure what our on site finish will be either but felt we had a little more control this way.). We didnt get the fumed product because we couldnt know for sure what color the finished product would be. Trying to make this choice right now(within the next two hours- yikes! I will report back once I have the application on a sample board. Blue tape is where some contractors messed things up. Held off on final coat until project finished.. which will be done in a few days. I love the natural, light color of the hardwood. Different painters proposing different solutions to calcimine ceiling. @widdy23 Seems like everything is taking longer than expected. They are light, modern, and show the natural color and variation of the wood. Are You Gutsy Enough to Paint Your Floor White? G & S isn't bashing you, they are bashing the 'dudes' in the industry. Sigh. First - The second pic you gave looks really weird. One other question. Our contractor suggested Bona Mega to save some money. Why would you use Bona Nordic Seal (Bona productobviously) and then go with LOBA??? G&S generally makes great comments and has solid analysis but in this case he assumed something not in evidence and commented based on that. By clicking Accept I agree to this, as further described in the Houzz Cookie Policy. Ive read quite a few different comments on all 3 and some seem conflicting. Apply the second coat. The problem is that at this point my trust level is quite low. I read that Natural has a bit of white in it too to avoid the yellow, but unsure if that is fact. I forgot to take a photo of the hand made air vent the installers made for the floor vent. Ask for Bona Mega One. Again, just make sure that you are getting professional grade rather than DIY grade product. The least porous Quartzites are actually called crystalline Quartzites. We even "fumed" a few boards in a fuming tent, and they just didn't look as good as the waxes/oils. And this will continue to occur until the finish is "done right". We have only had our cabinets for about a month so I cant speak to long term durability yet but they turned out gorgeous. Once you and your professional shake hands and write a contract that's when they come in and start the job. @Gilligan GehrityI am lucky (at least where I live) to have a cabinet maker who #1 will fit me into their schedule and #2 is willing to learn a method to satisfy my requests. I also have some design software that may help with your need. It shouldn't if it's in good shape, but don't know what shape it's in, so figure i'd warn you. What I like to suggest regarding 'cure times' is to give them MORE timenot less. However, I failed to visualize the tan natural against the grey bathroom tile. Most of the base cabinets are covered with cardboard to protect them. Can you apply the Bona NaturalSeal and then apply a couple coats of something like the Renner? Take the time to try all of the sample combinations. Consider greige, blush, distressed blue or one of these other instant-classic cabinet colors, Try this classic kitchen combination for a design thats warm and inviting, Landscape Architects & Landscape Designers, Outdoor Lighting & Audio/Visual Specialists, Bleached White Oak Cabinets Star in This Two-Tone Kitchen, Seeing Green: Some Kitchens Ditch White for Mother Natures Neutral, Hold Everything Your White Kitchen Cabinets Just Got Better, White Cabinets Remain at the Top of Kitchen Wish Lists. The use of water based is VASTLY different from oil based. Two coats of Bona Traffic HD Commercial Matte This is a higher cost process, since it is a top of the line water based poly that prevents yellowing over time. Im struggling with the same issue thanks! For the finish, use a water-based product, not an oil-based product which can yellow from sun exposure over time. How 'cheap' do you want to go with something that important? Bona nordicseal is greenguard certified for indoor air quality. Are light white oak wire brushed floors hard to keep clean? If you search my other discussions on this site, youll see how I flip-flopped so many times Corian, stainless, Neolith, D e k t o n, Quartz, wood (for the island top) and finally back to Corian. I would say he under bid the job and was pushing himself to finish (he rushed the stainwhich is why it is inconsistent) so that he could move on and make money on another job. It shouldn't if it's in good shape, but don't know what shape it's in, so figure i'd warn you. Did G & S need to tell me, Well see how long this finish lasts? No. View a wide selection of Rugs and other great items on KSL Classifieds. @renee, can you post photos of the completed project? What was really helpful to us is that the installer did lots of different samples for us and every new layer of the top coat changed how the wood looked. Make warm gray your new go-to neutral, Find the right local pro for your project, Landscape Architects & Landscape Designers, Outdoor Lighting & Audio/Visual Specialists, https://sprucingupmamahood.com/provenza-vinyl-flooring-review/, 5 Essential Moves for Classic Scandi Style, Dream Spaces: 12 Beautiful White Kitchens, White Cabinets Remain at the Top of Kitchen Wish Lists, Natures Color Wisdom: Lessons on White From the Great Outdoors, What to Know About Engineered Wood Floors, Maison & Objet: Art Deco and a Return to Elegance, Color of the Week: Decorating With Warm Gray. But I miss a slightly shiny floor. Hi, I know this is 2+ YEARS LATER, What finish did you end up selecting for your parquet floors? You need to start watered down, for they are strongjust take good notes of your ratios, LOL. Amber did of course have the amber/yellow tone - though not as much as I expected.

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